Two different ads. Two different kinds of bad decisions.

"Neil drives a beetle and a fancy beetle" (1500sand535) 07/30/2018 at 15:02 • Filed to: Audi

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Two manual allr oads for sale locally. Incredibly different ads, one has no pictures and reads:

“ The clutch it’s been replace, timing chain.has some air leak somewhere.”

The other featuring nicely taken, ample pictures reads:

“ 03 Audi Allroad. 6 speed manual transmission. 2.7t engine. 144k miles. Quattro all wheel drive. Blue exterior with black and grey interior. Has body colored flares and bumpers. premium stereo, hid headlights, power everything. Runs and drives well but needs some work. Car is from Colorado and rust free. Clean title. Good tires and brakes. Air suspension works fine but will sink overnight (most likely a valve block). A few dings and scratches. CEL for random misfires only when cold sometimes (goes away when car is warmed up - probably a vacuum leak), needs a headlight level sensor and some other small things.

The good: GIAC stage 1 tune, Forge diverter valves, Hotchkis front and rear sway bars, JHM short throw shifter, MOMO shift knob, poly mounts, trailer hitch, window tint, Milltek catback exhaust, 034 adjustable front control arms and more.”

Despite their differences they are both equally bad, tempting, ideas. It’s the old question of whether or not you want insight into how bad something is or just find out as you experience. If you lack common sense, find them here:

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E90M3 > Neil drives a beetle and a fancy beetle 07/30/2018 at 15:16

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CEL for random misfires only when cold sometimes (goes away when car is warmed up - probably a vacuum leak), needs a headlight level sensor and some other small things.

Sure

Ash78, voting early and often > Neil drives a beetle and a fancy beetle 07/30/2018 at 15:22

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“ Air suspension works fine but will sink overnight (most likely a valve block)”

I think he means:

“ Air suspension works for 15 minutes so you’ll buy the car (and I’ll never return your calls )”

/ Actually the second one seems pretty nice

Neil drives a beetle and a fancy beetle > E90M3 07/30/2018 at 15:30

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No need for a long test drive; you can totally take his word for it that those misfires will go away.

WilliamsSW > Neil drives a beetle and a fancy beetle 07/30/2018 at 15:38

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Yep - these 1st gen Allroads are so reliable they fix themselves.

nerd_racing > E90M3 07/30/2018 at 15:39

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Fun fact, my co worker’s B5 S4 has done this random misfire thing for a few years now. He just bought a NOS wiring harness and switched to newer coils, got the adapters and alloy adapter plates. He then installed a few other go fast parts (upgraded intercoolers and what not) and now the thing runs worse than before. It may or may not have the dreaded dentist drill turbo noise.

BUT... I would still buy a junker for that engine, to swap into a miata or something.  That car scoots. 

shop-teacher > Neil drives a beetle and a fancy beetle 07/30/2018 at 15:43

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Dude, no.

AMGtech - now with more recalls! > nerd_racing 07/30/2018 at 15:45

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The engine is one of the worst parts though

Neil drives a beetle and a fancy beetle > shop-teacher 07/30/2018 at 15:47

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I’m not gonna do it but I’m curious

AMGtech - now with more recalls! > Neil drives a beetle and a fancy beetle 07/30/2018 at 15:47

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In what world do vacuum leaks only happen when cold?

And yeah I’m sure the fifteen year old air struts are fine. And so is the compressor that’s been working overtime making up for the leak.

And I'm sure all the modifications were done by a top notch professional and have no issues.

Neil drives a beetle and a fancy beetle > AMGtech - now with more recalls! 07/30/2018 at 15:56

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I feel like small vacuum leak is a scapegoat for lots of craigslist ads for any given undetermined problem. Kind of like AC just needs a recharge.

AMGtech - now with more recalls! > Neil drives a beetle and a fancy beetle 07/30/2018 at 16:10

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And CEL on because it just needs oxygen sensors.

But in the real world engines care less about vacuum leaks at cold start because open loop and increased idle speed.

Because the second ad is so full of shit, I'd  be more inclined to buy the first car (if I were that insane or masochistic) despite the lack of info and that’s it’s clearly a basket case.

pip bip - choose Corrour > Neil drives a beetle and a fancy beetle 07/31/2018 at 06:06

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oh hell no

leave them alone and run like hell

nerd_racing > AMGtech - now with more recalls! 07/31/2018 at 07:06

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How’s that now?

AMGtech - now with more recalls! > nerd_racing 07/31/2018 at 15:10

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The whole car is the worst part